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dollarspa David Potter
Number of posts: 5 Age: 57 Location: Kemah (houston)Texas 713.542.5334 Registration date: 2008-09-03
 | Subject: New surface cleaner Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:16 am | |
| I have a landa 3500 psi 4.2 gallons Looking to upgrade surface cleaner between landa water jet or a big guy 1250 and 1000 respectivly if you had to pick which one? |
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Jason
Number of posts: 14 Age: 43 Location: Jackson MS Registration date: 2008-09-04
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:53 am | |
| Can't go wrong with a Big Guy! They are sweet. |
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Chris
Number of posts: 8 Registration date: 2008-09-04
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:41 pm | |
| Your surface cleaner is really depending on how much gpm's your pressure washer is putting out. A good rule of thumb is 4" per gpm, example 4gpm would be like 16" surface cleaner but you can go up to like a 20" if you wanted which the Classic by Whisper Wash is an excellent choice. If you have 5gpm then 20" to 24" which the Classic is still a great choice or Steel Eagle 24" or Whisper Wash has 2 models, one is a floater and the other has casters. I am not crazy about the casters but if they rigged big back tires like the Big Guy (28" surface cleaner) has then I would buy one as it would be a lot lighter than my Steel Eagle machine. The hover type are great but kind of hard to keep in a straight line for huge areas like parking lots, that is why I like the big tires on the back so you can keep them in straight lines. You can run a Big Guy with 5.5gpm but it will not be as fast overall as if you run a 24" or 20" surface cleaner as you will have to walk slower than if you were running an 8gpm machine that will make that thing work great! Many people have tried the Northern Tool brand of surface cleaners and a couple people I know have had luck with them but most say they are junk. The same goes for Whirl-A-Way, most have said they are junk but a few have said that they are ok. Everyone I know that has had a Classic says the same thing, it is a great machine. Hope this helps. |
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dollarspa David Potter
Number of posts: 5 Age: 57 Location: Kemah (houston)Texas 713.542.5334 Registration date: 2008-09-03
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:29 am | |
| Thanks chris great post lots of information and thanks Jason leaning towards landa water jet only because Ron swears by them 1250 new but I could have lots of left over money if I go the other route will see thanks |
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Chris
Number of posts: 8 Registration date: 2008-09-04
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:20 am | |
| Nobody around here or up in San Antonio (where I got my trailer rig) sells the landa water jet. It might be the price or it might be something else but I do not know. I broke a nozzle out of the spray bar on the Big Guy surface cleaner last nite so I had to call Bob at PressureTek and order a new bar, only like $78.00. I like that design over the Steel Eagle because with the Steel Eagle it is two pipes that thread into a "T" and you have a piece of plastic that helps you adjust the angle and you do that for both pipes. The Whisper Wash is a one-piece spray bar with angle-drilled holes for the nozzles so you never worry about the right angles. I called Whisper Wash about their 24" Ground Force surface cleaner (they make 2 of them, one is a hover type and the other is on 4 casters) and asked them if they could put 2 tires on the back and caster in the front like the Big Guy and they said that they do that often, it is called the Little Big Guy feature for like $50.00 more than regular price. If I did not have 2 of the Steel Eagle 24" machines, I would really like to get one of the Whisper Wash 24" machines with that feature, it sure would be lighter than the Steel Eagle. |
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Maxima 36" Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:31 pm | |
| I love my Maxima 36" surface cleaner IT'S THE DADDY! |
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Spencer

Number of posts: 147 Age: 34 Location: Tampa, FL Job/hobbies: Pressure Washing, Carpet/Upholstery Cleaning, Maid/Janitorial Service Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:18 pm | |
| | Mike Sullivan wrote: | I love my Maxima 36" surface cleaner
IT'S THE DADDY! |
What are you pushing that thing with? |
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Larry Millette

Number of posts: 30 Age: 45 Location: Saint Petersburg Florida Job/hobbies: Roof Cleaning and Pressure Washing Registration date: 2008-08-31
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Sat Sep 06, 2008 4:36 pm | |
| I have a 16 in whirlaway a 20 in whirlaway and a Big Guy. My big guy works great but I'm sure It would work much better if I were using a bigger machine. My other 2 clean like there is no tomorrow and other than the normal wear and tear I've never had any makor problems. If you are using 5.5gpm machines or greater I would definetly go with a big guy.  |
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Spencer

Number of posts: 147 Age: 34 Location: Tampa, FL Job/hobbies: Pressure Washing, Carpet/Upholstery Cleaning, Maid/Janitorial Service Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Sun Sep 07, 2008 12:22 pm | |
| I have a 16 in whirl away a big guy and a 28 in steel eagle. I would trade the steel eagle for a big guy in a heartbeat. It is too heavy. Larry, I am still having problems with my big guy vertical striping. I am gonna call whisper wash and talk to them. I have changed my tips more than once and still have the same problem. I have talked to a few other guys that say they have the same problem. |
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Larry Millette

Number of posts: 30 Age: 45 Location: Saint Petersburg Florida Job/hobbies: Roof Cleaning and Pressure Washing Registration date: 2008-08-31
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:46 pm | |
| Mine does it fron time to time and I have to overlap on all mine when using it. I've changed my tips also and it still does it. Last time I had to go to whisper washer they wanted to change out my bar to an updated one. They never said why so I told them no. Figured they were just after more $$ as usual. Maybe there is something in the design? I wish they would have said somthing if thats the case. |
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Spencer

Number of posts: 147 Age: 34 Location: Tampa, FL Job/hobbies: Pressure Washing, Carpet/Upholstery Cleaning, Maid/Janitorial Service Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:06 pm | |
| Larry, What degree tips are you using in your big guy? I switch mine out for different situations. |
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Larry Millette

Number of posts: 30 Age: 45 Location: Saint Petersburg Florida Job/hobbies: Roof Cleaning and Pressure Washing Registration date: 2008-08-31
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:58 am | |
| I've got 2.0 tips in mine. Norrmally I don't ever change them. I've tried 2.5 tips but didn't get enough rotation out of them. |
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:57 am | |
| | Spencer wrote: | | Mike Sullivan wrote: | I love my Maxima 36" surface cleaner
IT'S THE DADDY! |
What are you pushing that thing with? |
I like to max out. Make the most of everything I have.
Unfortunately the Maxima 36" comes with a 1/4" hose from the gun to the swivel.
Take it off, remove the gun, install a solid 3/8" high pressure hose on it with pressureteks heavy duty ball valve for maximum flow.
When running the surface cleaner I run a 20hp Honda with a 1:2 gear box driven AR 8gpm @ 3500psi 1750rpm pump and a high pressure T with couplers on a short 3/8" high pressure hose with a 13hp Honda AR 5gpm @ 4000psi 3400rpm pump
TOTAL output - 20hp 8gpm @ 3000psi + 13hp 5gpm @ 3000psi = 33hp 13gpm @ 3000psi
Nozzles are (2) 25 degree 07.5's
IT IS SO FAST YOU CAN WALK BEHIND IT LIKE A LAWN MOWER!
Anything stronger than this on a 3/8" hose and you would need to upgrade the engines to 24-28hp + 18hp to max out the pumps - 8gpm @ 3500psi + 5gpm @ 4000psi = 13gpm @ 3750psi using (2) 25 degree 06.5's
and/or add 2 hot boxes. I don't have hot burners so I max out my flow instead. I think it is a better trade off financially.
You would have to upgrade your hose to 1/2" if you are really hard core and push more than 13gpm @ 3000psi like Jim@garagecleaning does. |
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Spencer

Number of posts: 147 Age: 34 Location: Tampa, FL Job/hobbies: Pressure Washing, Carpet/Upholstery Cleaning, Maid/Janitorial Service Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:58 am | |
| | Mike Sullivan wrote: | | Spencer wrote: | | Mike Sullivan wrote: | I love my Maxima 36" surface cleaner
IT'S THE DADDY! |
What are you pushing that thing with? |
I like to max out. Make the most of everything I have.
Unfortunately the Maxima 36" comes with a 1/4" hose from the gun to the swivel.
Take it off, remove the gun, install a solid 3/8" high pressure hose on it with pressureteks heavy duty ball valve for maximum flow.
When running the surface cleaner I run a 20hp Honda with a 1:2 gear box driven AR 8gpm @ 3500psi 1750rpm pump and a high pressure T with couplers on a short 3/8" high pressure hose with a 13hp Honda AR 5gpm @ 4000psi 3400rpm pump
TOTAL output - 20hp 8gpm @ 3000psi + 13hp 5gpm @ 3000psi = 33hp 13gpm @ 3000psi
Nozzles are (2) 25 degree 07.5's
IT IS SO FAST YOU CAN WALK BEHIND IT LIKE A LAWN MOWER!
Anything stronger than this on a 3/8" hose and you would need to upgrade the engines to 24-28hp + 18hp to max out the pumps - 8gpm @ 3500psi + 5gpm @ 4000psi = 13gpm @ 3750psi using (2) 25 degree 06.5's
and/or add 2 hot boxes. I don't have hot burners so I max out my flow instead. I think it is a better trade off financially.
You would have to upgrade your hose to 1/2" if you are really hard core and push more than 13gpm @ 3000psi like Jim@garagecleaning does.
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That is some serious juice!!! I bet it speeds things up quite a bit. Is it worth the fuel costs? |
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: New surface cleaner Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:06 am | |
| Yes, because you are running both machines at the same time using just one surface cleaner and one guy. Eliminates the need to pay for extra help and an extra surface cleaner. Not many guys join there machines together, it makes a huge difference. |
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