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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Admin

Number of posts: 314 Age: 55 Location: Tampa, Florida Job/hobbies: Tampa Roof Cleaning Registration date: 2008-08-28
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:34 pm | |
| Then spray THIS stuff on, LOL Chreck THIS out ? Hello, I have watched your roof and exterior cleaning videos and am interested to discuss a business opportunity that may expand your current business model. Also I am interested in learning your product line as well and possibly bring it to US to market. Do you currently have a cleaning distributor in the Unites States? Our company is called Green Millennium Inc (a sales marketing office of KON Corporation in Japan). We manufacture nano photocatalsyt TiO2 self-cleaning coating material that is known to treat the entire building façade with a thin transparent coating film and creating the surface self cleaning with only the “SUN LIGHT” and occasional “RAIN FALL” for as long as of 10 years. Our product has been applied to many projects ranging from large commercial high raise buildings to single residential houses, apartments etc. I would like to introduce the following information for you to visualize the potential and possibly bring your attention of this emerging technology for the upcoming green building design with a single service (retrofit post) application. To view our photocatalyst self cleaning video clip demonstration, please click the following link: Click here to see the demostration on Google YouTube Video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7940230139304662752&q=photocatalyst&total=17&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0 And TPXsol self cleaning glass coating demostration http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1964652621271212159&q=photocatalsyt&total=2&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1 The causes of exterior wall soiling can be divided into two categories: adhesion of dust and grit caused by static electricity, and adhesion of atmospheric pollutants (exhaust gasses, factory smoke, etc.) due to their oil content. Photocatalyst TiO2 coating’s hydrophilicity creates a layer of water on the exterior wall surface to prevent static electricity and attraction of dust, grit, dirt or soot to settle on the surface. In addition, the decomposition strength of the exterior surface weakens the adhesiveness of organic oily content. Any residual dust particles are then washed away by natural rainfall and therefore completing the building’s self-cleaning cycle. Green Millennium Inc. Nano-TiO2 Photocatalyst coating solution demonstrates superior photocatalytic oxidation and photo-induced super-hydrophilic properties. A building’s aesthetic value is greatly enhanced while the overall maintenance is dramatically reduced thus bringing lower life-cycle costs. In addition, the decomposition property of photocatalytic surface cleans up air pollutants in the air stream. Studies have shown smog concentration was reduced by 65 percent on areas coated with photocatalyst titanium dioxide coating. Expansion of the use of photocatalyst technology and products will respond to society’s needs for environmental protection, enhanced aesthetic value and longer life spans for all building accessories and materials. Again, this technology offers only with one time application necessary in 6-10 years for the benefit of self-cleaning effect on building façade,. The coating is very durable and will continuous degrade the foreign (micro-sizes) contaminant such as mold, mildew, soot, NOx, formaldehyde, VOC odors, etc. Therefore, it is considered the most green innovation product with longevity benefit impact to clean our environment. We have project references, ASTM Test report, product spec, Technical data sheet, credential project references history that can be provided to you once upon your request. Please find the above information useful. If you are interested in learning more or would like to obtain further information, please feel free to contact or email me. I will be very glad to walk you through and answer any question you may have. Also, I would like to explore the possibility of your company product to market in the United States. Either way, I am interested to discuss it with you with opportunities. Thank you! Best Regard, Ted Yueh Green Millennium Inc. 425 W. Allen Ave. #111 San Dimas, CA 91773 Tel: 909-305-8882 Fax: 626-737-6511 Cell: 909-919-3788 email: tyueh@greenmillennium.com URL: www.greenmillennium.com |
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:37 pm | |
| Looks good, sounds expensive. |
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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Admin

Number of posts: 314 Age: 55 Location: Tampa, Florida Job/hobbies: Tampa Roof Cleaning Registration date: 2008-08-28
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:41 pm | |
| | Mike Sullivan wrote: | | Looks good, sounds expensive. |
Concerned Mike, because this coating makes the surface retain water. This dissapates the static electricity charge, eliminating the attraction of dirt and atmospheric pollutants. BUT, wet surfaces are an invitation for a "mildew party"  |
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:51 pm | |
| LOL! Ah... solved one problem, only to create another. That's funny! |
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Apple Roof Cleaning Tampa Admin

Number of posts: 314 Age: 55 Location: Tampa, Florida Job/hobbies: Tampa Roof Cleaning Registration date: 2008-08-28
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Wed Nov 05, 2008 2:21 am | |
| Unless they placed a long lasting mildew ihibitor in it ? It is japanese, and they are clever. A "self cleaning building", sound too good to be true ? |
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Spencer

Number of posts: 147 Age: 34 Location: Tampa, FL Job/hobbies: Pressure Washing, Carpet/Upholstery Cleaning, Maid/Janitorial Service Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:39 am | |
| Yeah, I've got some ocean front property in Kentucky for ya too!!! No matter what you spray on a building, house, pool cage, it is gonna get dirty. Let me spray my truck with it and let it sit in the drive way for a year. It will be filthy!! |
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:54 pm | |
| http://www.greased-lightning.com/i/1f9cfebdb5f1461e8981f005d5bbae2e.pdfHere's another MSDS containing hydroxide and butyl.
10% Sodium Hydroxide 10% Butyl Cellosolve 10% Surfactant
50 gallons of Greased Lightning - High Performance
40 gallons of water 40 lbs. Sodium Hydroxide 5 gallons of 100% Butyl 1 gallon of Tergitol NP-9
This mix looks to be more like a monster concrete cleaner or perhaps kitchen exhaust.
WAY TOO STRONG FOR GUTTERS!!!
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plainpainter
Number of posts: 14 Registration date: 2008-11-08
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:39 am | |
| Mike sodium hydroxide and butyl will certainly clean up gutters. But I thought the whole rationale behind F-13 was that it only affected oxidation. Where as the buytil/sodium hydroxide cleaners actually take off paint! My experience is that if F-13 doesn't get the gutters clean. then a sodium hydroxide/butyl cleaner will just take the tiger stripes off down to bare metal. I've done this before. Taking paint off down to bare metal doesn't constitute a succesful gutter cleaning in my book. I'd rather just tell the customer - heck, it didn't come clean - oh, well. |
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Mon Nov 10, 2008 1:14 pm | |
| F-13 has no butyl. The combination of butyl and hydroxide makes a big difference. Too much hydroxide and it will strip the paint off. F-13 and Gutter Zap contain 5% hydroxide which is strong enough to strip the paint down to the bare metal unless you dilute it down. Diluting it down also dilutes Gutter Zap's butyl down. It loses it's cleaning power when the butyl is cut down below 8%. If your hydroxide and butyl concentration is just right:.5-2% hydroxide and 8-10% butyl you will have better results.I have had little success with just F-13 alone. Adding BUTYL to it makes it work 10 times better.
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:17 pm | |
| I think I read somewhere that using Butyl Cellosolve above 10% concentration is a health risk. Keep it 10% or below. |
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Spencer

Number of posts: 147 Age: 34 Location: Tampa, FL Job/hobbies: Pressure Washing, Carpet/Upholstery Cleaning, Maid/Janitorial Service Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:02 pm | |
| | Mike Sullivan wrote: | I think I read somewhere that using Butyl Cellosolve above 10% concentration is a health risk.
Keep it 10% or below. |
That is good to know. Mike, you seem to be somewhat of a chemical guru. Thanks for all the great info! |
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:33 am | |
| Yeah man, you have to be in our business. Plus I don't have a hot water burner, so I have to use more chemicals than the hard core guys like you who have HOT WATER burners! I am jealous you have them on your rig with those monster 24hp 8gpm & 16hp 5gpm machines. You've got one KICKASS set up dude! I can imagine once you go HOT you never go back to cold. I bet it makes a huge difference. |
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Spencer

Number of posts: 147 Age: 34 Location: Tampa, FL Job/hobbies: Pressure Washing, Carpet/Upholstery Cleaning, Maid/Janitorial Service Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:48 am | |
| Mike, One day if you have some time and feel like help'n a brother out, I would love a "cookbook" of what you use on different surfaces and what mixing ratios. I think I am really missing the boat with making my own chems and you seem to have a very good grasp on that. If you ever feel like it you can PM it to me. I would really like to see what some of the chems and cost differences are between what you make yourself and what I am over paying for!!! |
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Mike Sullivan

Number of posts: 264 Age: 39 Location: Greensboro, NC Job/hobbies: Professional exterior cleaning Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Wed Nov 12, 2008 12:25 pm | |
| No prob. I'll post it so everyone on here can see. |
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Spencer

Number of posts: 147 Age: 34 Location: Tampa, FL Job/hobbies: Pressure Washing, Carpet/Upholstery Cleaning, Maid/Janitorial Service Registration date: 2008-09-06
 | Subject: Re: Gutter cleaner Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:10 pm | |
| Mike, You have some different gutter cleaner mixes on here. Which one are you using that is most effective. I am going to the chem supply store tomorrow!! |
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